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Bstardchild
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sixenligne a écrit : sam. 28 mars, 2015 19:52Thank you for the info.

Great! Go for the jig saw massacre ! Ah no... It's massacre in the plasma torch!  :muah:


LOL

sixenligne a écrit : sam. 28 mars, 2015 19:52I waiting to see how you fix the body.


Will keep the thread updated as things happen

sixenligne a écrit : sam. 28 mars, 2015 19:52Have you kept the Makrolon windows that were mounted on the Monza ?


Yes - hoping I can adjust them to fit

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Well I don't have a a plan B anymore - sorry for the camera phone picture

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No I haven't cut the roof off - just an issue with lighting!
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Well a bit more progress tonight (well this week) but I said no pictures till the engine was out so have some pictures

Front screen is out (un broken and with the screen rubber intact) - the rubber has seen better days but they are silly money and normally on a Monza I chose to sacrifice either glass or rubber and never try to save both - double win with the commodore

The rear side windows are also out - more on this later!

It takes up less floor space this way up

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If that's on the floor then

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So I finished removing the trim from around the rear windows and it came away without damage - not sure if I will use it or not but it gives me options and I'm sure someone else who is more "concors" will find it useful if I don't use it myself

Anyway the three lower screws holding the trim on both sides had to be ground away (On a Monza they are normally completely dissolved) so that was a good sign

This is what was underneath the trim

Driver side

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Passenger side

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And then I had a close look at the windscreen aperture

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Effectively in Monza terminology I have just won the lottery and been asked out for a drink by Nicole Scherzinger and Mrs BC has said sure it's fine go have fun!!!!
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So continuing on with dissasembly!!!

Door pin extraction tool of doom

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Soon had me this (bear in mind the door pins are very likely to be the originals and have been in the hinges for 43 years)

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It's getting to the stage where I'm going to have to knock up a quick dolly so I can drop the suspension and wheels off the car and still keep the shell mobile while I do a few repairs and also remove the floor.
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This weekend I've been mainly making bumpers........ (I'll add more pictures when they are finished)

Bumpers on a track car might not really be essential - it's not supposed to be a contact sport but I think the de-bumpered look is a little bare and unfinished

The full size bumpers I had with the car are a little beaten up in places and also horribly rusty with chrome peeling in areas - they also had rotten rubber over-riders as well as a rubber trim on the front edge that was hanging off in places so that had to go

So I planned to quarter bumper them - so chopped out the middle section of both. Then I mig'd up the holes that I wouldn't need all the existing fixings to the brackets that hold them to the car were seized solid and so I chopped off the nuts and then found some M8 coach bolts in B&Q that would provide the new fixing bolts for the mounts.

What I didn't want to do was end up with quarter bumpers that looked chopped ie a flat plate on the cut end that finished it off badly

So I took some inspiration in Alf's (ABS Club member and serial Opel restorer) old car

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Here you can see he's cut them a little longer and then curved the ends round at the cut to finish them neatly (I have a sneaky feeling he's welded up the mounting apertures/holes on the front end too)

My issue was I'd removed the wings and chopped of the front of the car so garden table and chair was employed to make a dummy front so I could check, measure, measure again and then cut with confidence

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With bumpers just laid in place (not in the right place I hasten to add but I couldn't be bothered to fix them on properly for the umptenth time!!)

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And a better shot of the profile (well nearly finished profile - some dressing up of the welds required)

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And inside edge showing holes welded up (used by the bolts for the rubber trim)

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Alf ran a full size rear bumper but I'm adopting the same chopping technique on the rear to finish the bumpers just after the rear light cluster ends

Lesson to you all if you going to car shows where the car is going to get papped remember to shut doors and boots as it spoils the lines on the car if you leave them open

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My initial plan was to drill a new mounting hole for the bumper support on the back panel however that proved to be difficult due to the light cluster supports inside the boot but luckily I could reverse the existing centre mounts and then hide it all under the curved end.

The rears are finished just forgot to take some pictures

So there you have it a weekend spend cutting and welding
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I thought "dolly" might not translate so what I mean is a rolling frame that allows me to keep the Commodore shell movable when I have removed the floor and also wheels and suspension and front crossmember

I've built a few in the past for restoration work on a Mini which was nice and small and also my Rally Car Monza (this is a long term project - when I start work proper on it I'll do a decent thread on it but it's what's hiding at the back of my garage)

For a few pounds investment in some steel and wheels it makes a huge difference to working on a car shell when in a narrow garage

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Unfortunately I can't borrow it because it's still in use and I'd have to modify it if I did borrow it.

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I need a slightly different design this time as I can only support the Commodore on the sills - so will aim to support the sills along the whole length
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Another piece of the jigsaw found and should be delivered this weekend

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Well it's arrived (found thanks to Stephen Day and Collected on Friday on the last day of the family holiday and delivered from Germany care of "utterpiffle" Chris from Retrorides)

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In other news I think the rear bumpers are pretty much how I want them - little bit of adjustment on the brackets and a little fettling on the shape

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Nice and tight on the body care of a bit of chopping and Portamig action

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So tar pads....... What a cow they are to remove

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Found some holes on the drivers side - not a problem for me - bad news for someone who wants the floors

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Bucket of tar

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And I blacked the bumpers

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Anyway back to the task(s) in hand

Finished the tar pad removal

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Of course to do it all the heater unit needed to come out

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So take that out the dash had to come out

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Drivers side floor has two holes - shame really but only a very local repair required

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Still waiting for steel and I've got to go away next week (Sun-Fri) with work so I'm running out of things I can do till the car is on a dolly
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